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The birthplace of the modern apple
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davem
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November 28, 2018 - 11:50 am
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Reinettes
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November 30, 2018 - 5:52 pm

davem,

Thanks for the article reference.  I'd love to go visit the Tien Shan myself, but a BBC Travelogue is most likely the closest I'll get!  The Silk Road has fascinated me since I was a kid (--a small child... not a baby goat).  That same general area around Kazakhstan is also where garlic apparently originated, whence it spread, like apples, east and west in Eurasia and of course to northern Africa and off to "The New World" in the age of exploration.  

I've often wondered what "Old World" cuisine was like before they got potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, summer and winter squashes....  Hah!  Reminds me of a recipe from an old Roman Cookbook by Apicius that I used to have (--loaned it to someone; never got it back--) for stuffed sow's uterus.  I'm sure they made it taste "good", but why don't ya pass me that basket of apples instead....

Tim

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Reinettes
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November 30, 2018 - 6:28 pm

...a P.S., davem,

BBC News used to be my homepage for several years, but I changed it to The Guardian perhaps about 3 years ago.  Thanks again for your post, otherwise I probably would have missed the story.

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DanielW
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December 4, 2018 - 7:57 pm

Very interesting reading!  I hope that specimens collected from Tien Shan will extend the disease resistance and flavors of modern apples.

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Crankyankee
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October 25, 2020 - 9:07 pm

I came upon this thread as I was parsing through the posts on this forum and remembered a video I saw of the Tien Shen mountains.

-Don

Zone 6a in the moraines of eastern Connecticut.

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jekahrs
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October 26, 2020 - 10:10 pm

Hey! Isn't Borat from Kazakhstan? "VERY NICE APPLE"

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