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Persimmons 2024
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John S
PDX OR
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September 23, 2024 - 8:01 pm

I just ate my first persimmon of the year.  It was an H-118 American Persimmon, marketed as Prairie something by one Green WOrld.  Very tasty and about the normal time to start getting my American persimmons.  I didn't have many persimmons this year. My Szukis mostly male died suddenly. I suspect my neighbor shot some Roundup over the fence. She threatened to do that to another neighbor. She is a very difficult person.

I am thinking of buying some scion for Szukis and grafting another tree.  I'm also thinking about H63a, but we'll see.

John S
PDX OR

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jafar
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September 24, 2024 - 12:05 am

Sorry to hear about your tree.  That's unconscionable.  We got our first H118 Prairie Star several days ago.  I picked it just translucent and then waited a couple of days to eat it.  No others have turned translucent since, but I expect we'll get more by the weekend.  This is looking like a good crop. 

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sweepbjames
NE Portland, OR Cully Neighborhood
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September 24, 2024 - 1:38 am

Looks like I'll have a first crop of Saijo on d.Lotus, three years in since the ugly grafting contest posting if I remember correctly. Exciting for me. probably about a month out. Just starting to see some yellowing on a few.

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quokka
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September 24, 2024 - 12:53 pm

John, that sucks. Sorry to hear it.

Both Giboshi and Saijo are starting to get some yellow on a few. Here that will mean a few might be harvested in a month or so. That assumes the squirrels don't break every branch - getting a lot of squirrel damage this year.

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John S
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September 24, 2024 - 3:13 pm

I think that Saijo is a really good tasting persimmon. If I were going to grow Asian persimmons, that's one that I would grow.  I think they are at their best when almost liquid.  Don't invite over a prissy upper class grandma in expensive clothes to eat one. 

Every time I hear the name, "Saijo", I think of this 70's soul classic.  It sounds like it's by the Stylistics, but it's by a one-hit wonder called Blue Magic.  Check out the suits and the dance moves!

John S
PDX OR

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Bear_with_me
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October 10, 2024 - 9:17 am

My favorite is still Nikitas Gift, although it ripens very late.  

This fall Im doing some editing of my orchard.  I cant take care of everything and a lot were just "I wonder how this will do?".  My American Persimmons - Yates and Prairie-something - have just never produced enough to matter, and are too small.  The flavor is very good.  But I'm removing them.  Also, my Saijo on D. lotus has always been sickly and barely produces.   It's going too.

 

I'm keeping the Nikitas gift.  They are very tasty.  Off in a far corner of the yard are Chocolate and Coffee Cake.  They took a long time to establish and grow stronger.  This year both have their first fruits. I'm interested in how they will taste.  They are pollination variant so that might be a factor.

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John S
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October 13, 2024 - 8:30 am

One thing that I really noticed this year is about pollination.  Since my Szukis mostly male American persimmon died/was murdered?,  the number of fruit among all my trees that set has plummeted.  I've only had 3 this year, compared to maybe 20 or 30 by this time last year.  The fruit have no seeds, as opposed to many seeds last year, and all of the previous years.  Experts have said that having seeds is correlated with having larger and better quality fruits among the American persimmons. 

I think I'm going to buy some scions this year of Szukis and try to graft another tree.  In his early research, Claypool noted how big of an effect the quality of the male had on the ultimate quality of the persimmons. That's why I bought Szukis originally, and that's why I'm going to get another one now.

 

John S
PDX OR

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jafar
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October 13, 2024 - 8:19 pm

My H118 sets well with no other Americans on the property.

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