I have been emailing Jafar about a new email list. This would be in case this HOS list stops working. I would want to keep in touch with you all. I can make the list on my yahoo mail account. I think I will call it PNWHO: Pacific Northwest Home Orchards. Of course, someone from a different area would be welcome. SPAMMERS would not. I haven't given up on this HOS list, but SPAM keeps increasing and the posts have been getting more scarce. Please let me know if you are interested in being on the list. I won't bother you with anything else, and I'm not selling anything.
John S
PDX OR
John S said
I talked to Joanie just before she ended the HOS. She said it was mostly because we couldn't get enough volunteers for the events. There were plenty of members, plenty of people willing to attend the events, and plenty of money. It's just that you can't run the events without volunteers running them. I'm also glad that the HOS exists as an online forum. I do still think I have Miss Jessamine, but it's hiding on the back side of one of my trees.John S
PDX OR
John: You posted that one year plus ago (January 28, 2024 - 9:31 am). I copy pasted it to make it more clear to those newer people so that they can have a greater sense of our distress we have as volunteers. So the closure of our historic swap meets was due to manpower shortages ,essentially the same stress being felt now caused by spam.
Sorry to hear that you are still feeling that form of adversity, but at least you have my email to start over if necessary.
And mine 🙂
I'm contemplating transitioning to read only. I haven't discussed with the webmaster yet.
I am interested. Signal is also a decent platform that I use with a pollinator group that went from mostly physical to mostly virtual, similar to HOS.
Just a reminder. We are seeing the end of the HOS as a message board. If you want to be on an email list where we can contact each other, please send me your email. Otherwise, I don't think we'll be able to contact each other if we want to share a scion/bud, or taste something to see if we'll like it.
JohN S
PDX OR
Wellp, kind of a downer to me. I had planned a last local offering of that Quince "Cook's Jumbo", scion wood locally. Turns out it is really that one, only catalog entries with that "football" sort of shape are it. Also was going to post a picture of Ume Plum as it is now about 2-3 % into a white bud popcorn stage. Thinking why bother? the interest was only bio-regionally if of any sort of note, really nothing beyond that. Sorry to see this extension not make a go of it, I guess the bump in the road was just insurmountable, sort of took the wind from the sails. Anyway,,,,see ya, if I see ya.
James B
I sent out the first email on the new list. If you didn't get the email, you're not on the list. Please post here or DM me if you want to be on it. HOS isn't going to be around forever.
John S
PDX OR
The plan is to keep the site operation as it is through March, and then go read-only for the rest of 2026.
sweepbjames said
Wellp, kind of a downer to me. I had planned a last local offering of that Quince "Cook's Jumbo", scion wood locally. Turns out it is really that one, only catalog entries with that "football" sort of shape are it. Also was going to post a picture of Ume Plum as it is now about 2-3 % into a white bud popcorn stage. Thinking why bother? the interest was only bio-regionally if of any sort of note, really nothing beyond that. Sorry to see this extension not make a go of it, I guess the bump in the road was just insurmountable, sort of took the wind from the sails. Anyway,,,,see ya, if I see ya.
James B
RE: Ume Plum
There were genetic markers done on the various plums in 2019 and the Ume is shown closest to Nankings, which nankings in and of themselves were thought to be cherries about 60 years ago. It goes to show how progress goes when better tools and best ways of sampling things improve.
Speaking of progress, I think it's a loss that big pocketed entities that support the next AI revolution picked on us by sending bots to the forums. It's the biggest factor to the closing and the least would be boredom. At least it's not been a boring one to me.
Speaking about Ume. I enjoyed seeing you farm your dried ume harvest through the times as well. I just found the recent picture I took of you so I will edit this post after it's uploaded. For now, (until I see ya' all in some other form forum or place sooner or later) thankyou to all the leadership, volunteers, and shared experiences.
Should anyone be interested in developments as far as pollinations with apples or plums in wet springs then John_S is probably one of my closest email contacts to reach me. After years with self pollination results I think I have created a new scientific way of cloning apple cultivars through a process whereby cultivar DNA, when special conditions merrit, goes to seedlings (apomixis).
Rooney said
sweepbjames said
Wellp, kind of a downer to me. I had planned a last local offering of that Quince "Cook's Jumbo", scion wood locally. Turns out it is really that one, only catalog entries with that "football" sort of shape are it. Also was going to post a picture of Ume Plum as it is now about 2-3 % into a white bud popcorn stage. Thinking why bother? the interest was only bio-regionally if of any sort of note, really nothing beyond that. Sorry to see this extension not make a go of it, I guess the bump in the road was just insurmountable, sort of took the wind from the sails. Anyway,,,,see ya, if I see ya.
James B
RE: Ume Plum
There were genetic markers done on the various plums in 2019 and the Ume is shown closest to Nankings, which nankings in and of themselves were thought to be cherries about 60 years ago. It goes to show how progress goes when better tools and best ways of sampling things improve.
Speaking of progress, I think it's a loss that big pocketed entities that support the next AI revolution picked on us by sending bots to the forums. It's the biggest factor to the closing and the least would be boredom. At least it's not been a boring one to me.
Speaking about Ume. I enjoyed seeing you farm your dried ume harvest through the times as well. I just found the recent picture I took of you so I will edit this post after it's uploaded. For now, (until I see ya' all in some other form forum or place sooner or later) thankyou to all the leadership, volunteers, and shared experiences.
Should anyone be interested in developments as far as pollinations with apples or plums in wet springs then John_S is probably one of my closest email contacts to reach me. After years with self pollination results I think I have created a new scientific way of cloning apple cultivars through a process whereby cultivar DNA, when special conditions merrit, goes to seedlings (apomixis).
THE LINK TO PICTURE OF SWEEP_B_JAMES AND UME
sidebar to the photo: admittedly late for the drying step in the salted plum processing, I opted to use my sons hoop house as weather threatened open air drying. The fan pictured was not involved in the process.