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Grape scions available in Camas
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davem
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March 13, 2022 - 10:39 pm

20220313_211444.jpgI finished my grafting and have the following grape varieties left over. About 5 sticks each. I can leave them at the curb in the paper box for pickup 24x7.  These are from the HOEC.  PM me for my address.

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Buffalo
Brilliant
Golden Muscat
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davem
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March 18, 2022 - 8:40 pm

Also:

Verdelet
Himrod
Alden
Vanessa
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Reinettes
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March 18, 2022 - 9:08 pm

davem,

I wish that I could take one or two, but I already have so many things to attend to, and I have so many bloody things that need to be dealt with.  I thank you for your generosity and hope that there's someone relatively local who's willing to take you up on the offer.  Of the few grapes that I have, I didn't even get around to pruning them this winter.  Pruning any later while the weather is getting warmer:  the pruning cuts will be oozing.  Lesson learned several years back....

Reinettes.

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May 17, 2023 - 10:46 am

FYI all my grafts of these failed.  I kept all my leftovers in the refrigerator through the spring, summer, fall and winter, not really on purpose.  In January 2023 I checked them and was surprised to find living cambium, after almost a year in the refrigerator.  So just for kicks I tried rooting them in February.  A fair number of them are now budding out.  I plan to try chip-bud grafting once they are bigger.

So if you have extra scions that you care about, leave them in the refrigerator and you might get a second chance the following year.

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May 17, 2023 - 3:37 pm

I just realized that this thread started a year ago.  My response could have been the same as Reinettes.

If you get fruit from Golden Muscat, I'd like to taste it 🙂

Cool that the cuttings (now that you are trying to root them) are still viable.

I've heard that a trick for grafting grape, if I recall correctly, is to graft dormant scion to green growth.  Presumably green growth doesn't bleed when cut.

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davem
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May 17, 2023 - 7:14 pm

Thanks Jafar, I will definitely research that.  I have done probably 20 grape grafts and they all have failed.

One of the scions leafing out is Golden Muscat so keep your fingers crossed!  But they all came from the HOEC so I'm sure they would let you taste some if you're down that way when they're ripe.  Although maybe not since they do a fruit CSA.

Although my luck with grafting grapes is terrible, my luck with rooting them is very good, so I'm pretty sure these will have decent roots.  I'll probably put it in the ground next to the grape that I hate (Цыца устойчивая), and if I continue to have bad luck with grafting onto Цыца устойчивая I'll just cut it off at the ground and let the Golden Muscat take its place on the arbor.

Speaking of arbor, I put some lights on it and got kind of a cool photo of it this winter.  Sorry it's sideways, most of my photos are sideways in this forum 🙁20230222_233504.jpg

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May 18, 2023 - 12:43 pm

That is a cool photo of your super sturdy arbor. 

I've probably tasted the grape at the All About Fruit Show, although I usually found the grapes there not great samples of the varieties.  I got to where I usually didn't bother tasting the grapes.

I don't think I've been to the arboretum since HOS closed.  At some point I hope to get back out there, but probably not in a particular window for catching a particular grape variety.  I may settle for getting your opinion of it in 3 years 🙂

Sweet Seduction is really good when it fruits, and is seedless and not slip skin.

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May 18, 2023 - 11:33 pm

jafar said

I've probably tasted the grape at the All About Fruit Show, although I usually found the grapes there not great samples of the varieties.  I got to where I usually didn't bother tasting the grapes.

  

At the 10/15/2016 show I tried every single grape, 93 of them.  I didn't feel so great by the end, but I gave each one a taste score and made some notes, which has been helpful for selecting varieties to grow.

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May 19, 2023 - 9:58 pm

I tried to do that one year with pears.  I also wasn't feeling great by the end, and I didn't get close to all of them - and that's excluding the perry pears.

Never understood that we sold donuts, and people bought them, at the fruit tasting.  I like sugar as much as the next guy, but ...

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June 6, 2023 - 6:29 am

davem said
FYI all my grafts of these failed.  I kept all my leftovers in the refrigerator through the spring, summer, fall and winter, not really on purpose.  In January 2023 I checked them and was surprised to find living cambium, after almost a year in the refrigerator.  So just for kicks I tried rooting them in February.  A fair number of them are now budding out.  I plan to try chip-bud grafting once they are bigger.

So if you have extra scions that you care about, leave them in the refrigerator and you might get a second chance the following year.

  

Good tip there Dave. About somehow they manage to keep themselves alive. The plant virus department in Washington where I used to get prunus tests performed had passed along one year plants of prunus tomentosa or p microcarpa to me. They were stored for an extra +1 year at 32 degrees because they didn't end up used in the lab. Four of ten survived. But yours had no roots and still survived that long, wow!

The only grape I grow is a self rooted 'Jupiter'. It grew fast and produces well which might be due to being alongside my concrete septic tank. Feeders were recently discovered entering right into the tank itself and they appear tunneling towards the downstream distribution box. My system is still working great now so I won't worry for a couple more years. (fingers crossed)

I haven't sampled many cultivars but I have had locally grown 'Bronx' offered to me which was about as outstanding as my Jupiter.

Grafting literature warn of graft failures on plants that are prone to bleeding. One way is to grow rootstocks that have tendencies to bleed in pots that have had the moisture content reduced. I happened to know how much my Jupiter grape bleeds from removing a few of the branches a couple of months ago. It constantly dripped for weeks.

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June 6, 2023 - 5:21 pm

Rooney said

Grafting literature warn of graft failures on plants that are prone to bleeding. One way is to grow rootstocks that have tendencies to bleed in pots that have had the moisture content reduced. I happened to know how much my Jupiter grape bleeds from removing a few of the branches a couple of months ago. It constantly dripped for weeks.

  

Yes I am sure that is my problem - every grape scion graft I have tried has bled a lot.  I have tried grafting at different times, it didn't seem to make much difference.

I ended up putting the scions which rooted into the ground.  My hope is that I'll be able to just replace the whole vine that I hate, since grafting wasn't working for me.  i.e. saw it off at the ground.

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June 14, 2023 - 3:49 pm

One more is thinking about growing...

Unfortunately this one got separated from its bundle so I don't know what it is.  But I know it is one of the varieties I listed at the top of this thread.20230614_145752.jpg

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