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Grafting class Saturday Feb 29 2020
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John S
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February 23, 2020 - 7:43 pm

Beginners at 8:45. Intermediate class at 10:45.

https://www.homeorchardsociety.....rafting-3/

John S
PDX OR

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Pugs
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March 1, 2020 - 1:20 pm

I wanted to thank everyone who helped with the classes.  I enjoyed it ever so much.

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John S
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March 3, 2020 - 7:37 pm

The students really did a great job.  It makes me happy to think about us as a nation potentially solving some of our food problems in that room.  Great work from the volunteers too.

John S
PDX OR

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Clark S.
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March 11, 2020 - 8:53 pm

Hi John S.

Thanks so much for both offering and teaching this class, I really enjoyed it.  At the end of the class, I asked if there would likely be any persimmon and/or paw paw scions at the upcoming Fruit Propagation Fair.  You said you might be able to bring a few from your trees if I sent you a reminder.  Do you think you could bring a few this Sunday?

Many thanks for your consideration, and for all you do.

Sincerely,

Clark S.

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John S
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March 13, 2020 - 6:10 pm

Hi Clark,

Sadly, the FPF is cancelled. If you remind me next year, I could try to bring some.
John S
PDX OR

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ericwalls
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March 27, 2020 - 12:14 pm

I too loved the class and have been thinking a lot about grafting. I appreciate all the knowledge, help, and patience in learning this skill.

 

Forgot the name of the rootstock we grafted on too? I wrote it down somewhere but now I can't find it.

Funny how I was told in a few weeks the little buds on my graft would swell if the graft took. Looks like they are starting  and I have never been so pleased that I was able to make one successfully!Smile

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Pugs
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March 27, 2020 - 12:24 pm

ericwalls said
I too loved the class and have been thinking a lot about grafting. I appreciate all the knowledge, help, and patience in learning this skill.

 

Forgot the name of the rootstock we grafted on too? I wrote it down somewhere but now I can't find it.

Funny how I was told in a few weeks the little buds on my graft would swell if the graft took. Looks like they are starting  and I have never been so pleased that I was able to make one successfully!Smile  

 I believe it was an M9 or NIC29, not sure if there were both, or it was a NIC® 29, which is like an M9.

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sweepbjames
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March 27, 2020 - 2:26 pm

ericwalls said
Forgot the name of the rootstock we grafted on too? I wrote it down somewhere but now I can't find it.

Funny how I was told in a few weeks the little buds on my graft would swell if the graft took. Looks like they are starting  and I have never been so pleased that I was able to make one successfully!Smile 

**CongratsLaugh**

Pugs said

 I believe it was an M9 or NIC29, not sure if there were both, or it was a NIC® 29, which is like an M9.  

More about the M-9-NIC-29 Rootstock here, here and here:

https://www.goodfruit.com/solv.....ck-puzzle/

http://treefruit.wsu.edu/web-a.....ootstocks/

http://www.treco.nu/products/16/

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John S
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March 27, 2020 - 10:35 pm

Nice job, Eric! I can remember the first few grafts I made. I was so excited that 25% took!  I thought it was a miracle.  I felt sorry for the neighbors, because I was screaming at the time.  I hope they've gotten over it by now, 20 years later.

JohN S
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Pugs
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April 10, 2020 - 4:44 pm

Well, on the two grafts I made at the class, both scions are budding out now, so I'm thinking success.

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John S
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April 10, 2020 - 9:20 pm

Nice work.  Watch out! It can become addicting.

John S
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Pugs
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April 11, 2020 - 7:09 pm

John S said
Nice work.  Watch out! It can become addicting.

John S
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Too late, already has become addicting.  I've got scions from TOS, Maple Valley, and some from HOS on order.

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ericwalls
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April 12, 2020 - 11:50 am

Looking at mine too and the buds are starting to grow. I can't believe it worked!  I took 2 little sticks, taped them together and now I have this tiny little tree going. What a cool thing!

I also ordered some scions from the scion exchange to graft on to established trees.Smile

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Pugs
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April 13, 2020 - 10:12 am

Does anyone know where I can get more of the metal labels that we were given for our grafted trees?

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sweepbjames
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April 13, 2020 - 7:46 pm

Pugs said
Does anyone know where I can get more of the metal labels that we were given for our grafted trees?  

D.I.Y. labels can be made, if you don't want too many, out of aluminum beverage cans. A clever person might figure out how to emboss/crimp two layers around the edges (painted side in probably) for a bit more substantial tag. Read about this first on the old forum, John S I think OP.

Internet searches are showing pre-made @ 100, 500, 1000 counts.

Esty shows ten count for just under $14.

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Pugs
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April 13, 2020 - 7:52 pm

sweepbjames said

Pugs said
Does anyone know where I can get more of the metal labels that we were given for our grafted trees?  

D.I.Y. labels can be made, if you don't want too many, out of aluminum beverage cans. A clever person might figure out how to emboss/crimp two layers around the edges (painted side in probably) for a bit more substantial tag. Read about this first on the old forum, John S I think OP.

Internet searches are showing pre-made @ 100, 500, 1000 counts.

Esty shows ten count for just under $14.  

Thank you James, but what are they called then?  When I search, I don't find anything like them, but T tags and the like.

Never mind, found them.  Tree tags rather than plant labels.

I've thought of making my own, but am really not crafty enough.

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John S
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April 17, 2020 - 2:30 pm

Yes, I just cut them up, make a hole with a one hole puncher I bought at Good will, and write on them with a pen that no longer has ink. I usually put a few layers of newspaper underneath so it will engrave nicely. Ink never runs out because there is no ink.  One 10 cent pop can yields probably 30 labels. I try to have several on hand before either the whip and tongue grafting season or the budding season.  I also use ones with no holes in my mushroom logs. I just pound them in.

I think I got the original idea from Larry PLumfan, down in Sweet Home or thereabouts.

John S
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Pugs
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April 17, 2020 - 7:38 pm

John S said
Yes, I just cut them up, make a hole with a one hole puncher I bought at Good will, and write on them with a pen that no longer has ink. I usually put a few layers of newspaper underneath so it will engrave nicely. Ink never runs out because there is no ink.  One 10 cent pop can yields probably 30 labels. I try to have several on hand before either the whip and tongue grafting season or the budding season.  I also use ones with no holes in my mushroom logs. I just pound them in.

I think I got the original idea from Larry PLumfan, down in Sweet Home or thereabouts.

John S
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I'll have to try that, once I find the metal cutting sissors and can buy a hole punch.  How big do you make the labels?

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John S
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April 17, 2020 - 8:42 pm

I just use regular scissors.  The labels vary.  Mostly between 1 and 2 inches wide and maybe half an inch to 3/4 tall.  Before I had a hole punch, I just made a hole with a nail.  Pretty blue collar, and not as "clean",  but it works.

JohN S
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Pugs
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April 17, 2020 - 9:06 pm

John S said
I just use regular scissors.  The labels vary.  Mostly between 1 and 2 inches wide and maybe half an inch to 3/4 tall.  Before I had a hole punch, I just made a hole with a nail.  Pretty blue collar, and not as "clean",  but it works.

JohN S
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Thanks for the explanation.

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jekahrs
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April 24, 2020 - 12:59 pm

This would really solve a problem. Are the edges of the metal sharp and potentially cause cuts?

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John S
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April 24, 2020 - 9:37 pm

The outside edges of the labels aren't sharp and have never cut me that I can remember.  If you poke the hole for the string with a nail, it will be jagged, but with a hole punch it won't.

John S
PDX OR

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ericwalls
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April 26, 2020 - 4:37 pm

Hey now that my graft is budding out and starting to grow I had a question. I'm getting growth below the graft union. Do I want to clip off that growth so the only growth is the graft union and above?

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April 26, 2020 - 6:28 pm

ericwalls said
Hey now that my graft is budding out and starting to grow I had a question. I'm getting growth below the graft union. Do I want to clip off that growth so the only growth is the graft union and above?  

Yes.

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Pugs
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April 26, 2020 - 6:32 pm

A suggestion for next year's class.  Cover the cleft graft as well.

Some of my scions were quite thin and some of my root stock was thick.  I ended up doing some cleft grafts, as there just wasn't a way to graft then otherwise.  Fortunately I had taken the 2nd grafting class where other types of grafts were discussed.

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John S
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April 27, 2020 - 4:56 pm

Hi Pugs,

I want to make sure that I understand the suggestion. We did talk about the cleft graft.  Are you saying that we should make sure to go over the cleft graft in the second class as well, for those who have forgotten/didn't take the first class?
John S
PDX OR

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