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Fall Fruit Show - Bremerton, WA
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JeanW
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October 19, 2021 - 12:14 am

After being a long-time HOS member and lurking on the forum for many years, I finally officially joined this forum.  With the demise of HOS, many of you are probably missing the shows in particular.  I’ve made the 3 ½ hour trek to attend the HOS spring and fall shows for many years with several others from this area. If any of you are reasonably close or inclined to make a day trip, Peninsula Fruit Club (a chapter of Western Cascade Fruit Society) is reinstating their annual Fall Fruit Show this year after missing last year due to Covid.  The show is Saturday, Oct. 30 from 10 am to 4 pm at the West Side Improvement Club, 4109 West E Street, Bremerton, WA  98312.  Admission is free with donations appreciated.  We usually have between 300 and 400 different cultivars of apples on display available for tasting and also some pears, kiwis, grapes, etc.  I would say our apple display rivals that of HOS, but we can’t hold a candle to the HOS displays of other fruits.  We’ll have some apple trees for sale and other orchard related supplies.  There is lots of educational material to peruse, experts to talk to, and also an ID table.  If you’re longing to see a good fruit display and itching to taste some rare, obscure, heirloom, common, or whatever fruit, please grab your mask and come on up and check us out.

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John S
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October 19, 2021 - 7:51 am

Hi Jean,

I'm glad you joined the HOS forum.

That's a good tip about the fall fruit show in Bremerton.

Sounds like it would be a good road trip.

John S
PDX OR

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jafar
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October 19, 2021 - 11:19 am

Welcome Jean, thanks for joining and posting this.  Looks like a great event and a good excuse to make a trip.  Now that I know it exists, I can try and talk my family into making an outing next year.

Exciting!

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Reinettes
Lewis Co., WA
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October 20, 2021 - 5:38 pm

Jean,

Thank you for joining the "HOS" Forum and for the generous invitation to the show.  There is something profoundly special about seeing a broad array of apples and other fruits laid out and exhibiting their incredible diversity.  I've never been to Bremerton, but I'll hope that my wife can work it into her schedule.

Reinettes (Tim).

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Rooney
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October 20, 2021 - 11:27 pm

If I hear from you in my inbox that your going from Lewis County WA all the way to Bremerton then having your address would be good if you would bring a dried Japanese pear donation there for me. I have been hearing about fruit set issues with pears in not only our hills around Battleground but the Puget Sound. However this works because it's been tested in the Sound and it ripens early and dependably, but as said before this one needs more feedback. It's not great fresh unless your feeding farm animals but it's got character dried with this where 'Bartlet' when dried fails. 

"Dry Slough Orchards" has a YouTube about 5 minutes long. The person being interviewed made a good point about 55 degrees F. and higher need to be reached in the one or two weeks following pear pollination. He has culled many and the few remaining cultivars that are locally leveraged for cool springs the 'Shinseiki' and 'Mishirasu' are among them, which are the same parents that produced the tree making these dried pears. At a stage when ripe (coastal edges ~Aug-15-20) it follows the not so good 'Mishirasu' (parent) and the early ripening date aligns with 'Shinseiki' (other parent) or a week earlier, which needless to say are all highly productive.

I must throw the name Peter Svenith of the former Vashon Islands 'Pumpkin Patch' (not listed out there anywhere anymore) out there as this pears originator. Dry Slough Orchards owner and the late Peter would have known each other.

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JeanW
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October 21, 2021 - 12:37 am

Thank you all for the kind welcome.  I hope to put more faces to names one of these days by meeting some of you at either the Fall Fruit Show or the Spring Grafting Show that Peninsula Fruit Club puts on every year.  The grafting show will be March 19, 2022, in case you want to put it on the calendar.

On a side note, I’m not sure what happened to the picture that I posted of the fall show.  I saw it on the preview and the first time I clicked on my post, but it has disappeared.

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Rooney
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October 21, 2021 - 11:30 am

With picture problems such as yours you can PM me any time.

The image that dropped out of your static text session would still is latched online based on: " saw it on the preview and the first time I clicked on my post ". The image can be relocated by stringing the text of the image name and extension such as MyPicturesName.jpg following the string below and insert the final results into browser and test the existence. Then simply post the set of characters and I or anybody can lodge the image for you.

https://forums.homeorchardsociety.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/JeanW/2021/10/

The original name of the image is always found on your original media folder by invoking right click on the icon and left click on properties. (ie. mypicturesname.jpg or similar)

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Rooney
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October 21, 2021 - 3:16 pm

JeanW: I found another way that might be much easier that I updated in the following page.

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JeanW
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October 21, 2021 - 10:42 pm

Thanks Rooney. The pictures are still there in WordPress if I go to “View existing image uploads”.  In fact, they are doubled for some reason—two sets of the same pictures.  I probably accidentally deleted the path in my post when I did an edit to delete two extra letters that had appeared after the final sentence.  Tired, clumsy fingers I guess after all the fall picking, etc.  Here's another try at posting a picture.

2018-10-27_6055Resized.jpg

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JeanW
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October 21, 2021 - 10:48 pm

So this time it posted the same picture three times.  I deleted the other two copies.  Is there any way to delete the extra copies from the WordPress memory?  I wonder if there is a little software glitch somewhere.  When I go to close the "View Existing Image Uploads" window, there are 9 little red x's rather than 1 little red x!

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Rooney
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October 23, 2021 - 12:42 am

Glad it worked. Smile

You: Is there any way to delete the extra copies from the WordPress memory?

Me: You sure can. I did with new to me information as outlined recently in Suggestions & Support by the moderator.

You: there are 9 little red x's rather than 1 little red x

Me: I see that too using chromium but it's cosmetic only.

The only way that Wordpress would enlist multiple identical images and file names is having clicked upload button 3 times in a row. I suggest leaving the extra copies in place as they are "since previous posts" that can't be re-composed in case of image mistakes. There are however some who know how how to tickle the browser client-side tools for removing (ie. testing) temporary internet files (image copies) out of history, and if your confident with this or know about this then go for it.

Nice Picture !!

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Reinettes
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October 27, 2021 - 5:25 pm

Darn it.  I checked the kitchen calendar and my wife is going to Portland on the 30th!  It can be hard to coordinate our schedules.  Aargh!

I certainly want to get to some of these events in the future so, JeanW, please keep us informed on other similar activities!

Reinettes.

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JeanW
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October 29, 2021 - 12:16 am

Sorry to hear that Reinettes.  Yes, I can post about the shows closer to when they happen, but I can tell you right now that the Spring Grafting Show will be March 19 and the Fall Fruit Show Oct. 29, 2022.

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Reinettes
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October 29, 2021 - 6:08 pm

Jean,

Thank you so very much!  I'm glad that you have joined the Forum and I look forward to any and all input that you can offer to the rest of us.  Are you yourself in Bremerton, or elsewhere in the area?  Your growing conditions will probably be a bit more similar to mine in terms of the fewer heat units that we receive north of Longview, Washington, versus more heat units to the south, especially in the Willamette Valley.  Not to put any kind of burden on you, but please feel free to give your input on matters of interest to you, and in relation to the conditions that you and your fruit trees face.

Reinettes (Tim).

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JeanW
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November 2, 2021 - 12:44 am

Tim,

Yes, I’m in Kitsap County with definitely fewer heat units than the Willamette Valley.

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Reinettes
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November 10, 2021 - 3:55 pm

Hi Jean,

Sorry for the delay in my response; I am "hit-and-miss" on the computer because I burnt-out many years ago with staring at a computer screen, which my job required more and more of, and I personally need as much time as possible in the great, wonderful, outdoors of the natural world.   I was born a "kid naturalist", and I much prefer the natural world to the anthropogenic one.

I appreciate the information that you've given.  Something tells me that I'm going to have to look into membership in the Western Cascade Fruit Society.  My wife and I had joined the Home Orchard Society (--I'm still in mourning--) because its activities were closer to us.  I'm forced to stop living in the past.  (Strangely, my wife sometimes tells me something comparable, but one only has the present and the past for objective comparison.)

If you've got the time, Jean, what are your favorite apples and/or pears?

Reinettes (Tim)

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JeanW
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November 13, 2021 - 11:49 pm

Tim,

It’s hard to pick a favorite when there are so many to choose from, and it also depends on the season.  I’m growing somewhere around 350 different apple varieties and about 65 pears.  They have not all fruited yet, so I haven’t tasted them all.  My current list of favorite apples would include:  Dandee Red, Devonshire Quarrenden, Red Gravenstein, State Fair, Michaelmas Red, McShay, Merton Worcester, Sansa, Cox’s Orange Pippin, Davey, HWR-19T-18, Holstein, Jupiter, NY 429A, Cosmic Crisp, Melrose, King David, Esopus Spitzenburg, and Newtown Spitzenburg.  Paragon and Abate Fetel top the list of pears.  What are your favorites?

There is a chapter of Western Cascade Fruit Society in Olympia now.  They are still holding their monthly meetings on Zoom rather than in person.  I’ve enjoyed attending the Zoom meetings of some of the other clubs around the area without having to drive anywhere.

Jean

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DanielW
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November 15, 2021 - 7:47 am

Thank you Jean for the info.

That's interesting to me, about meetings in Olympia.  That might be a better drive for me than going down to Canby was, avoiding Portland traffic.  I already go to Longview for doctors' appointments for the same reason.  I'll be anxious to learn when there is no further need for Zoom meetings.  I do 't do well with virtual meetings.

(Edit - according to apple maps, Olympia is 90 min drive for me, Canby is one hour.  Still, it might be interesting)

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Reinettes
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November 16, 2021 - 7:52 pm

JeanW,

I must say that I am flabbergasted by the number of cultivars that you're growing!  As a matter of fact, this may very well be the first time that I have typed the word "flabbergastered" [--gosh I love the English language; what's the origin of that word?].  Numerous apple varieties I can understand, but 65 varieties of pears is incredibly outstanding!  I applaud you!  There are too few people preserving and testing pear varieties anywhere, let alone in the Pacific Northwest where so many of them should thrive.  Most people can tell you (--if they even know the name--) that they like 'Bartlett' or 'Bosc'.  And yet, how many varieties of pears have they ever had the privilege of trying?  They've never had a choice.  They've never been exposed to the diversity of pear varieties and tastes.  

In my area, at least, I think that 'Ubileen" is truly outstanding.  I first tasted it a few years ago when Sam Benowitz (the founder of Raintree Nursery in Morton, WA) offered them up to a few of us visitors.  They were large and wonderfully tasty at a time of year when pears were not considered "in season".  It was an indication that, like apples, there are varieties of pears which mature over a period of time and are available at different points in time.

I only have a few pears.  Among the European pears:  'Ubileen' (--one of two appears to have died this year in the early heatwave), Duchess d'Angouleme, Doyenne Boussock (--I still can't resolve whether this is properly spelled 'ch' or 'ck'), 'Marie Louise',   'Flemish Beauty', 'Beurre Bosc', 'Butirra Precoce Morretini', Doyenne Comice, and such.

My own favorite apples?  As with any fruit connoisseur, far, far, far too many to mention, given the diversity involved.  As a miniscule hint that can't encapsulate my tastes:  J.H. Kidd's 'Gala' and 'Kidd's Orange Red', bred in New Zealand; 'Arkansas Black', the two Pearmains 'Lamb Abbey P.' and 'Claygate P.'.  As I suspect it may be with you, trying to make a list out of literally scores of worthwhile varieties, if not hundreds, of favorites just can't be done.  Each is unique and worthwhile in its own essence and merit.

JeanW:  If I were to pull together all of my references on apples, as reminders, and then try to list all of those which are favorites, I would be, as I am now, absolutely and thoroughly incapable of making a list.  It's apparently a stupid question to ask people.  I apologize.

If you are trialling 65 varieties of pears on your parcel, by golly, I'd like to hear your reports on their performances over a number of years.  I love pears, but they can be something of a persnickety crop.  I'm confident, though, that carefully selected varieties, under trial in the Pacific Northwest under acute observation and careful assessment of performance, could contribute to a greater diversity of pears grown in our region.  

No doubt I may have strayed off-topic.  If that's so, I offer my apologies.  

Reinettes (Tim)

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Reinettes
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November 18, 2021 - 9:06 pm

Additional apple varieties that I have known and loved:  

Adams' Pearmain, Alkmene, Ashmead's Kernel, Bailey Sweet, Baldwin, Blenheim Orange, Braeburn (ripens too late here), Bramley, Breugger Reinette, Brownlees' Russet, Cannon Pearmain, Cox's Orange Pippin, Davey (pronounced "davvy"), Dyer (a.k.a., Pomme Royale), Egremont Russet, Gilpin, Holstein, Hubbard's Pearmain, Hubbardston Nonsuch, Hudson's Golden Gem, Karmijn de Sonneville, King of Thompkin's County, .....

That sorta takes me up to about mid-alphabet, but I know that I've already missed several beloved varieties.  You can see my regret at foolishly asking "What are your favorite apples?"  It's a fool's errand, and I haven't tasted countless other apples out there.  

My apologies at the stupid question.

Reinettes. Smile

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