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Envy Apple Scion
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ArmedAmish
Sherwood, OR
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December 27, 2018 - 11:18 am

Has anyone grown Envy apples here in Oregon?  Ever since trying them in the store, I've been enamored with trying to grow my own.

Are there any scion or tree sources?

Bryce

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John S
PDX OR
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December 27, 2018 - 4:46 pm

I haven't heard of them, but now I'm curious. Can you describe the flavor and texture?

Thanks,
JOhn S
PDX OR

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DanielW
Clark County, WA
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January 6, 2019 - 1:48 pm

Envy is a club apple and is patented.  I dont think it's legal to trade scion, and probably not available.

That's one reason they are so good.  Club apples have rigorous culture methods and quality control.

Club Apples

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!

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jafar
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January 6, 2019 - 8:32 pm

John S said
I haven't heard of them, but now I'm curious. Can you describe the flavor and texture?

Thanks,
JOhn S
PDX OR  

John, 

I don't think you'd be a fan of Envy anyway.  Its a firm, juicy, hard, crunchy apple with great texture but predominantly weighted to very very sweet without much balancing acid.   Its slow to oxidize after cutting and keeps very well.

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John S
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January 10, 2019 - 9:58 pm

Thanks Jafar,

I have nothing against firm, crunchy apples.  It's just what you normally have to give up to get it, such as flavor, storage quality and pest resistance.  However, you are correct. Very sweet apples without much balancing acid are quite uninteresting to me.

John S
PDX OR

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ArmedAmish
Sherwood, OR
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January 13, 2019 - 8:26 am

John,

The apple reminds me of HoneyCrisp - sweet and crunchy.  This is probably heresy on this forum, but you should go to the store and buy one.  New Seasons has them in right now.

Daniel is right about it being a club apple.  The apple comes from New Zealand and only select growers there and in Washington are allowed to grow and sell it.  I reached out to the source organization and they said they are not selling to home orchardists at all...

Bryce

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jafar
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January 13, 2019 - 11:20 am

I'd say its closer to Fuji than it is to Honeycrisp.

It's denser and much sweeter, as in more sugar as well as less acid, than Honeycrisp.

A typical Honeycrisp around here is probably 11 or 12 brix, and Envy likely 15 or higher.  

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John S
PDX OR
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January 18, 2019 - 9:21 pm

I still have about 500 apples sitting in the tooll shed waiting for me to eat them this winter, and envy doesn't sound more interesting than they are.  The ones in my shed are selected by me for flavor,  organic, convenient and free.  Hard to argue with that.

John S
PDX OR

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