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COX,S ORANGE PIPPIN
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jim scott
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April 6, 2008 - 11:39 am

I would like to find Scion for a variety of apple called COX'S ORANGE PIPPIN, Which Originated in England.

JIm Scott Salem.Or

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Viron
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April 6, 2008 - 3:35 pm

Jim,

Cox’s Orange Pippins are fairly common at good nurseries, and their scion wood is generally available at our yearly “Propagation Fair” (or Scion Exchange). Finding one dormant and ready to graft ‘right now’ will likely be difficult; and an existing tree would be too far along (nearly blooming) to be useful.

What are your plans for it?

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jim scott
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April 7, 2008 - 10:54 pm

<img decoding=" title="Embarassed" /> Sorry I first used email to respond. now I will respond on forum.

I would like to try grafting onto an existing Braeburn that I planted
last year and has branched with four branches 5/8 to 1" dia. and spaced
approx. 90 degees apart. What type of grafting process do you suggest? I do not have any experience at grafting and would appreciate any help you can give me.

I have a friend who ate these apples in England as a child and claims
that it the best variety she has ever tasted. however childrens
recalections are sometimes exagerated!

Thank you, Jim Scott

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jafarj
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April 8, 2008 - 12:41 am

I think I've read a lot of folks say Cox's Orange is finicky to grow. That didn't stop me from grafting some to my tree.

Are you interested in converting over your whole tree, or just to add a branch or two of Cox's Orange?

Of the 6 or so types of grafts I've tried, I've found by far the easiest, especially for a beginner, to be the bark graft. I was able to successfully do them my first try having never seen them in person by following the tutorial by Joe Real.

http://citrus.forumup.org/abou.....itrus.html

He's one very impressive dude in California who has several massively multi-grafted fruit trees on his suburban lot.

What Viron said about getting dormant scion wood is true. I still have the wood that I picked up from the Scion Exchange in my fridge, and I'd give you some if I'd picked up Cox's Orange this year, but I didn't. I did pick up Queen Cox which is a sport (slight genetic mutation) of Cox's Orange Pippen.

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Viron
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April 8, 2008 - 12:41 am

That’s OK Jim <img decoding=" title="Wink" /> it just leaves those on the Forum in a lurch wondering ‘what happened to us?’

Now I might get in trouble for this first answer … but it comes from experience. England can grow some good apples, but their maritime weather is more like that of BC Canada than Oregon. With the additional heat in our Willamette Valley, we can grow and ripen even better apples. English apples are midseason apples around here; nothing wrong with that, but like I said -- we can do better.

I’ve some ‘Ribston Pippins’ (the apple of the landed gentry of England), it’s a semi-russeted apple and a parent of the Cox Orange Pippin. It’s a good mid-season apple, and hangs on quite awhile before rotting. It has a light ‘russeting,’ or ‘potato skin’ texture; as does the Cox. The Cox is also known to develop cracks; I believe that’s been traced to a calcium deficiency..? You may want to research that.

That said, it would be a fine one-limb apple, as are my Ribston’s.

Grafting… unless you have dormant Cox scions, it’s too late this season. That said, you can Bud graft later this summer… The Home Orchard Society gives a Budding workshop, and if it’s at our Arboretum, you’d have access to some Cox buds (ask Karen first). I’ve never technically Bud grafted, just played around; preferring dormant season grafting from experience. Though I may do some Budding this year as I missed our Propagation Fair (Scion Exchange) and need some plum pollination on a youngster.

If you nab some Cox wood at next years Fair / Exchange you’d likely end up doing a small ‘cleft graft.’ There’s multiple examples pictured online, or, the HOS also has classes in February that teach the basics of ‘splice grafting’ and (my contribution), top-working an existing tree. If you had some big fat dormant Cox scions right now, a whip & tongue graft would be hard to beat! Its description's also plastered online…

There you go, tell me what you think :roll:

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jim scott
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April 8, 2008 - 8:22 am

Thank you Jafarj and Viron for your suggestions. I think I will wait till til
the Budding Workshop and go from there.

Jin Scott

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