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Where to still find rootstocks?
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iadknet
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March 31, 2015 - 2:38 pm

Hi all,

I made it to the propagation fair for the first time this year and had an awesome time.  Since then I've gone a little fruit crazy and have been trying to find places to fit more trees in our small yard. 

I think I found room for a couple more espaliered apple/pear trees and I'd like to plant the rootstocks this year so I can get them ready for grafting scions from next year's fair.  Does anyone know the best local place that rootstocks can still be purchased? 

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jafar
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March 31, 2015 - 3:35 pm

I think you can buy them at the Arboretum.  Otherwise I think One Green World and Raintree sell them by mail order.

You could probably arrange to get them from the One Green World plant mobile.

 

The Arboretum is open to the public on Tuesdays and Saturdays from 9am-3pm.  We welcome members, visitors, and volunteers year-round. One of the finest public gardens in Oregon, we’re just twenty minutes south of Portland – come visit this incredible demonstration orchard!

Tonia Lordy, Arboretum Manager
503-338-8479
arboretum@homeorchardsociety.

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iadknet
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March 31, 2015 - 9:55 pm

Thanks!

I definitely look forward to exploring the arboretum.  For now, I put in an order with One Green World.

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John S
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April 18, 2015 - 10:08 pm

You could also try Burnt Ridge Nursery in Onalaska WA.

John S
PDX OR

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Rooney
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April 25, 2015 - 5:10 pm

If in Portland there's still time. For example Tonia still has more than enough in "P22" apple rootstock and others. I went today with green apple wood. She let me bud a few if I promised to follow up because they are still there.. So Yikes it won't grow unless topped off so..

Spring grafting or second chances for when and what to do when no more dormant scions are available;
Three buds of apple on P22 still in water and at the CCC gardens. Will follow up long distance. So this is what happened so far;
April Early Bud (link)

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sweepbjames
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April 27, 2015 - 3:48 pm

Nice pictorial/tutorial.Smile Thanks!

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sweepbjames
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April 27, 2015 - 4:52 pm

"So Yikes it won't grow unless topped off so.." 

Hmm,  You're comment above suggests you are going to top the rootstock off just above the bud graft soon?  but not done in the pictorial linked...

Just clarifying that you are not going to wait until you see the bud push. So's I don't get confusedEmbarassed.

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Rooney
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April 27, 2015 - 10:48 pm

It's different than the rest in that we have growth going on and longer days than nights. What's going on with the plants I don't know. We have only to worry we never wait too long in removing the top or too early. Just knowing the bud can't grow for two weeks until new connections have been established we are on a calander watch only even though the bud will start up a little after 8 days. 

It's all pro active. Five days after budding half the above the graft green growth will be removed. Several days after that (day 8) some bud activity may be possible. Then above the new bud everything is cut off on day 14 and it ramps into full speed from between day 14 to 28. 

I would guess a tiny guy like this would be better to use time release fertilizers rather than bumping salt based nitrogen. 

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Rooney
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April 27, 2015 - 11:05 pm

When I did those the conditions were sunny but slightly windy. So I would move my scion into the wood shed to minimize diseases blowing into all the cut cells and especially when the tiny wood piece is removed there are too many surface areas exposed to disease. Placing the finished bud in tap water helps but I didn't. When my cuts are made they are pressed into duct seal which is essentially a clean product consisting of clay and vaseline, really good enough to dress and wound heal anything for a while until you get tape or bands.

In my 3 grafts I think I would worry about the buds not pushing through parafilm since the roots seem rather small. 

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sweepbjames
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April 27, 2015 - 11:18 pm

Rooney said
It's different than the rest in that we have growth going on and longer days than nights. What's going on with the plants I don't know. We have only to worry we never wait too long in removing the top or too early. Just knowing the bud can't grow for two weeks until new connections have been established we are on a calander watch only even though the bud will start up a little after 8 days. 

It's all pro active. Five days after budding half the above the graft green growth will be removed. Several days after that (day 8) some bud activity may be possible. Then above the new bud everything is cut off on day 14 and it ramps into full speed from between day 14 to 28. 

Thanks for the clarification. The mulling over has begun!

James B

PDX NE Cully neighborhood

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Rooney
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July 25, 2015 - 3:50 pm

Several posts ago (3 months) I see I promised pictorial update of April Early Bud as another active link. Well I have not been back home yet to update let alone make sure it was earthed up or pruned. So instead I offer a different apple from Alaska I did exactly the same Early Method as above but at end of Early season.

~hollaus/Greens/2015/AprilBuds/June/table.htm

Left side one month ago. Up and down pictures were 5 days different than each other to which puts bottom right picture at today.

In 5 days difference I see it's off racing but Forcing bud this late in the year might have risks no matter where you live this late in the season unless you are lucky to have greenhouse lighting to extend the season out, and the dry conditions would help too.

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jafar
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July 26, 2015 - 7:34 am

Thanks for the follow up.  It's a pleasure to see buds grow.

My apple budded root stocks were doing great until I learned that 2x4" welded fence is only a notional barrier against rabbits 🙁 

At least I have root suckers to use to try again.

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