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What on what to graft ?
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misoo83
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June 6, 2010 - 1:53 am

Hi i am new on this site :mrgreen:

I am interesting about grafting , what on what can i graft and when is best time to do that , example (on plum can i graft cherry ? or on apple can i graft peach ? etc...)

I want to try to graft good cherry on wild cherry with t budding and cleft graft but i don't know exactly time when to try that graft on cherry tree

And Pear graft on apple tree , plum on other plum etc..

Can i do on same branch t budding and cleft graft ? i saw that somewhere on internet :D

Please write me here when exactly (date) to do that grafts or you suggest one better grafting method for grafting cherry

I know that cleft grafting is conducted in late winter when both the rootstock and the scion are in a dormant condition ( but i dont know date ) <img decoding=" title="Laughing" />

When to make t budding and when to try cleft grafting (please write date )

Thanks

p.s. Sorry for my bad english i am from serbia <img decoding=" title="Laughing" />

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Viron
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June 6, 2010 - 9:48 am

There are many graft combinations that are compatible but short lived. The best results are grafting to a specific rootstock that can handle your local soils and diseases. Seedlings do not provide such protection and may be short lived, too.

A ‘good cherry’ onto a wild, or seedling cherry should be fine – though seedling cherry trees have no dwarfing effect and can easily reach 40+ feet if not religiously pruned (I’ll let you convert to meters). It helps if the seedling is relatively young; and Bud grafts work better on “stone fruit” (fruit with single pits or seeds) like cherries. I’m pretty good at cleft and ‘whip & tongue’ grafting but have had consistently dismal results with cherries – even young ‘perfect specimens’ have failed. Bud grafting, when the bark is thin enough and receives enough sunlight is a far better method, though I’ve not done it.

Pear on Apple (or vice-versa) is interesting; just this spring I grafted three ‘apple varieties’ onto a friend’s pear tree, using an “interstem” variety compatible with both. “Winter Banana Apple” is one of few apple cultivars (I know of) compatible with pears, so I made whip & tongue grafts with the apple varieties at one end of the Winter Banana scion - then inserted the WB scion under the pear bark with a Bark graft. It’s been excitedly reported to me, “They’ve got little green leaves!” …we’ll see <img decoding=" title="Wink" />

Plum on Plum should work… but from experience – it’s critical to allow sunlight to the grafted piece. Placing a scion under an established canopy is usually a death sentence for the graft. Providing the amount of sunlight necessary to allow the graft to compete with the rest of the tree often requires removing a lot of material from the ‘base tree.’ I suggest grafting to young trees; there’s less competition and the eventual graft becomes a more balanced part of the tree’s structure.

- That said, why not start a stand alone tree on well known rootstock?

There are some excellent tutorials online, but they leave out many of the nuances experience brings, and some of the absolute basics, like canopy removal for sunlight... Materials and practice are also key components. Viable ‘Bud Sticks,’ dormant scion wood, correct sealing methods that don’t interfere with the cambium. Wrapping and binding – and how and when to remove the same…

T-Budding is done in late summer. You will need a fresh cut “bud stick” of the variety you want. Our organization has a class but the date’s not yet listed. It’s one of the easiest methods for grafting – if your materials are assembled and you’ve done some homework. Obviously, you’ll not be attending our class, but neither have I… Budding is pretty simple. The after care, again, is critical. When you get closer to making these grafts, check in and describe your plan. I’m sure others would/will have some great suggestions – and welcome to our forum 8)

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misoo83
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June 6, 2010 - 12:42 pm

Thanks Viron for help and answers :D

i found one tutorial if someone need about t- budding

http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~dail.....ng/bud.jpg

And chip

http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~dail.....g/chip.jpg

And simple whip grafting

http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~dailey/pixs/g ... /graft.jpg

Tomorrow i will show pics here what fruits difference from that two cherry trees

This are tree "sweet cherry" different varieties what i want to graft

http://i50.tinypic.com/zofk40.png

In my garden i have this left variety and this right variety but i want reproduce with grafting this big sweet cherry in middle on pic

http://i48.tinypic.com/kf41lh.png

My grafting plan is next:

I will try to graft this sweet cherry trees on 15.6.2010 and 15.7.2010 with t- budding and craft graft , i will go and take some branches from big cherry variety and graft it on another cherry tree variety, grafting wax i don't have because in my country grafting wax is too hard to find i have only electrical tape :o

I hope of some success if not i will try to graft that trees again next year :mrgreen:

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FruitOfLove
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April 19, 2011 - 8:21 pm

First, let me apologize for posting in a thread that's almost a year old. I know that's not much of an apology, but there it is. LOL.

Really, I just wanted to come on here and thank you guys for this thread. I'm very new to landscaping, planting/gardening -- so one could only assume that I didn't know what the heck grafting was. ;) My friend Abby was the only who suggested that we trying plant grafting, but she didn't exactly go about explaining just what it was. She's the gardening expert who's introducing me to the lovely world of outdoor activities. . . hence why I've wandered onto this board all confused.

From what I'm seeing, it seems like grafting is a pretty interesting process. I can only imagine the neat results t-budding/grafting can produce. I hope I stated that right. Are t-budding and grafting the same thing? LOL. Take care, folks!

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misoo83
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June 2, 2011 - 12:01 am

This year i made my first grafts pear on quince and one graft pear on apple tree with cleft graft and simple graft and from 15 grafted trees i have 10 successful grafts

@FruitOfLove

t-budding and grafting the same thing (same result on end)

That are two grafting methods one is done in early spring and other in summer and that is only differences between t-budding and grafting

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