just curious if it's too late to top work a 30' tall spindly pear tree that i just exposed.
it was enveloped by cloud burst clematis and a laurel monster.
with that stuff removed it looks ridiculous and will be years before i can harvest
any fruit at a reasonable height.
i still have a few scions in the fridge, is it too late to graft?
this is my first year of grafting. so i'm full of questions.
what is the norm for the end of grafting?
i've heard now is the time to graft persimmons...?
also, does anyone have any experience grafting pine trees?
i want to try grafting pine trees for bonsai.
is it too late to graft pine trees now that the sap is flowing?
thanks for your thoughts and time in reading this.
yours,
seth brown

OOoouu… Seth - sounds like fun! How much scion wood do you have, pear of course..? And it’s not too late to graft …in fact, I’ll be headed out later this week to a commercial apple orchard to do just that. Actually, it’s perfect – if your scion wood’s still good.
Are you just wanting to bring this leggy pear down to size, or change it’s ‘variety’ completely? Do you know what variety it produces? It’s not too late to prune – in fact it’s a great time to do that, too… Either pruning or removing enough wood to graft (a new variety) lower down, it’s good to be ‘getting rid’ of some of the excess energy stored in the root system. There will be fewer suckers.
But dang, I teach this very element of grafting at our annual classes @ Clackamas CC (Oregon) and it’s nearly impossible to describe the various methods ‘here.’ Some crown veneer and inverted L bark grafts would suffice, and it’s never too late for a good ol’ whip & tongue graft to an appropriate sized shoot ... and the bark’s slipping so nice it’s sensual ~ and it’s fairly difficult to make a mistake if you understand the basics.
How old is the tree; how much scion wood do you have; and roughly where are you located (I didn’t fully read the Blog link)?
Have you got dormant persimmon scions and rootstock, too? Actually, you can graft persimmons to rootstock any time they’re dormant, it’s just now that they’re beginning to bud. They’re late, like Oaks. Do you have an existing persimmon tree and are wanting another cultivar (variety)?
Not sure about pine trees… being evergreens there may be other opportunities. I’ve seem them propagated in mass from small cuttings and don’t know of any that have been grafted. Do you have a dwarfing rootstock specific to pines..? I do love the ‘concept’ of Bonsai… and it wouldn’t take a lot of urging for me to head that direction…

Hi Seth,
Most conifers use a side veneer graft in December or thereabouts, so yes, you're quite late. The rule of thumb on pines is only graft two needle pines to two needle pines, and 5 needle pines to 5 needle pines.
Most people have finished whip and tongue grafting of pears, depending on your rootstock. Douglas hawthorn was very recent. We have some people in the society whose skill is so precise that they can reliably whip and tongue graft into July and August. I am not one of those. I am grafting persimmons but nothing else now.
You will find that your skill increases every year. This is a good thing.
John S
PDX OR
Idyllwild
simplepress
jafar
Marsha H
Viron
1 Guest(s)