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Reintroducing historic apples to Burlington, NJ
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bad8shaman
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April 5, 2011 - 7:29 pm

Hey there,
I live in Burlington, NJ, and I have begun thinking of starting an organic apple orchard mainly for making hard cider. I have been given a few places about town to plant under the promise that I find something historically significant to the town. Much to my surprise I found a few apples that trace themselves back to this once worldly and important town.
What I found is that the yellow bellflower is widely accepted as migrating throughout the US from Burlington, NJ in the 1700s. I also found some claims of Maiden's Blush being first noted here, but others say it is from NY. A mysterious apple called Roman Stem (for it's elongated, nose-shape) is also reputed to have started here, but I can't seem to find that anywhere now, and I wonder if it is just the yellow bellflower, whose shape is slightly elongated. Unfortunately, I am not able to place any orders for the one's I can find now.
My first question (1) would be. Is there any place where I could find these varieties, now, for 2011? I am also looking for Harrison (another famous Jersey apple) and Granniwinkle. I would like to get everything from one place to minimize cost and hassle.
Second (2), Is my history correct? Does Roman Stem really exist? Is Maiden's Blush from NJ or NY?
Third (3), are there any projects that have done anything like what I am proposing? Where could I find support?
I am very interested in rare and forgotten plant varieties, and I am looking for a way to bring this town back to it's agricultural roots. Too long has it rusted in the mess leftover from the industrial revolution, and this town needs change and help. I encourage anyone out wondering what Burlington, NJ is to check it out. This town needs more dreamers to get it back on its feet.
Thanks for suffering through my long posting.

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John S
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April 6, 2011 - 9:23 pm

It seems to me that in the book"Old Southern Apples" by Creighton Lee Calhoun (sp?) he mentioned that several of the traditional Southern apples are actually from New Jersey. If I run across it again I might look. It's an expensive book, but you might find it on reserve at a library.
John S
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John S
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April 6, 2011 - 11:00 pm

I didn't want to say it until I could confirm it-
Winesap is from New Jersey. I think if you look in the section in that book on Winesap it will tell you others. Winesap is a great apple in my opinion. Good taste, great keeper.
John S
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fool
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April 14, 2011 - 9:02 am

Too late for this season but Fedco (Maine) has Harrison cider apples on Antanovka standard rootstock. They say "Essex county, New Jersey, probably before 1800."

http://www.fedcoseeds.com/trees/search. ... h=harrison

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lcody
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July 26, 2011 - 7:13 am

I'm a little late responding to this post but I am also in New Jersey in Hunterdon County and have been on a similar quest. I have some results and info that I'd be happy to share if you'd like to contact me. Not sure how to do that exactly. We have a small orchard of 30 trees, varieties unknown and trying to id. Also transitioning to "holistic" orcharding techniques.

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larry deemer
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January 3, 2012 - 7:19 pm

Big Horse Creek Farm has at least two of your three named varieties in their current list. They also have one called Maidens Blush which might be worth asking about. Say hello to Ron & Suzanne. Good luck on your project.

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larry deemer
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January 4, 2012 - 12:07 pm

CORRECTION: On re-checking their website I should have said that Big Horse Creek MIGHT have ALL the varieties you mention (and possibly more) with NJ connections.

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