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Planting Around Fruit Trees
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Rtech
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April 19, 2005 - 6:54 pm

I heard someone ask about whether you can plant plants (like tomatoes) around the base of dwarf fruit trees?

I guess I never thought about doing this, and wondered if there was any big problems I would run into? :?

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Steven
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April 20, 2005 - 9:02 am

I would imagine you would have to be careful of disturbing the roots of the tree, and also making sure the plants have enough sun when the tree is bigger.

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Viron
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May 8, 2005 - 3:11 pm

Rtech, I concur with Steven here; when tilling around my fruit trees I've been shocked :shock: at how near the surface their roots are. No doubt you'd cause some damage tilling deeper than 2 or 3 inches.
Also, frequent watering of an annual vegetable would do just the opposite of what's best for a fruit tree - deep, less frequent watering. Shallow watering would cause the roots to surface even more.
Finally, sunlight would be scarce; I can't think of any benefits - but a good brainstorm!

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leclair
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May 10, 2005 - 8:03 pm

Under a few of my apple trees, I have Maine Blueberries. They only grow to about 12-18 inches tall and they like partial shade.

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jadeforrest
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October 27, 2009 - 4:12 pm

You could grow mushrooms in your mulch. And perennial vegetables would probably he better than annuals. Look into permaculture for more on the idea of combining trees and other plants at the same time. They have a lot to say on this topic.

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softweather
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October 29, 2009 - 3:19 pm

If you look at older farm and garden books you can see that it was usual practice to interplant between young orchard trees. This allowed the spaces between the trees and the rows to be used while the trees were growing. They usually used small fruits like berries for a quicker cash income while the trees were growing. Standard sized trees take up a lot of space and when just planted they have plenty of room between trees that the roots don't use. The planting must be done outside the dripline of the trees to avoid damaging the roots. Blueberries, strawberries or cane berries would work well and don't require a lot of tilling of the soil. They can also be watered a bit less frequently than annuals or vegetables. As the trees' dripline expands, the plants must be removed. Even dwarf trees can be interplanted when they are young as long as you stay outside of the dripline. That will keep you from drawing nutrients from your young trees and protect the feeder roots just under the surface.
In a very small yard a cordon or espallier could be used for the fruit tree and that would allow more valuable groundspace for small fruits/berries as the dripline would then take up a much smaller space.

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chrisg
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November 3, 2009 - 10:22 am

Ive heard that growing chives (Sure it was this herb) can help to prevent apple scab if planted near the base of fruit trees after 3 years, but on the other hand, ive read that even grass have a detrimental effect on the trees growth if to close to the base.

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John S
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November 3, 2009 - 9:56 pm

planting members of umbellaria family (carrots, parsnips, etc.) can provide a host for parasitic wasps that attack apple maggot. I plant earth chestnut underneath for that reason. I like to eat the leaves of earth chestnut, and you can eat the bulb, although it is very unproductive. Mostly it's insurance for the apple maggot, which has never become problem with my apples. I wish it would work for codling moth.
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desertwoman
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November 18, 2009 - 8:22 pm

chives under fruit trees are also great for deterring aphids. I've planted strawberries and chives under
peach, plum, cherry and apple with great success. By the time the trees are fully leafed, the strawberries are happy for some shade. In our large organic orchard we planted clover, alfalfa, vetch and others as green manure and tilled it under a couple of times a year.

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