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Marichal Foch Vines
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Sharonack
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March 10, 2009 - 9:35 am

I'm looking for 25 or more of the above varietal and am having great difficulty finding them in either Oregon or Washington. There are bunches (no pun intended) available in New York and other states but they cannot ship into Washington. I need two year old vines as opposed to cuttings. If anyone knows of a source I would greatly appreciate being given the name. And I'm assuming that Washington State will allow agricultural shipments from Oregon?
Thanks very much,
sharonack

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jadeforrest
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March 10, 2009 - 9:54 am

Have you tried Lon's site?

http://www.bunchgrapes.com/

My guess is he would have them.

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Sharonack
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March 10, 2009 - 10:55 am

Yes, I did, thank you. According to Lon's site he has only cuttings, not the vines for Marichal Foch. UC Davis has a website - they put me in touch with "Inland Nursery" out in the Yakima Valley area from whom I've ordered Cab/Franc vines . He's sold out of MF for this year. This is a retirement project which tells you I'm not getting any younger and wanted to get my vines in the ground this year!

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jadeforrest
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March 10, 2009 - 11:45 am

If you can't find them, maybe you can graft the cutting onto another vine? I'm not sure this is possible, but I think it is.

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PlumFun
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March 10, 2009 - 2:02 pm

I have some one year olds rooted. Email me.

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Sharonack
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March 10, 2009 - 7:31 pm

Wonderful! I would like to take delivery in mid-May. What is your minimum? And as I write I am on the east coast, three hours ahead of you, so forgive me if I don't respond further this evening.
Sharonack

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lonrom
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March 13, 2009 - 2:09 pm

One myth that needs dispelling: In grapes, unlike fruit trees, older/larger vines do NOT gain you any time in getting them into bearing. What counts is that the vines are healthy and have at least two or more large (1/8 to 1/4 inch diameter) roots. The roots don't even need to be that long. If they are cut or broken to three or four inches that is still enough. Why? Because any transplanted vine needs a full season to re-establish it's root system, and even short roots are enough to allow the plant to re-grow roots quickly. That's the first year. The second year the vines are cut back to two buds and a new shoot is trained up as the new vine's trunk. The year after THAT, the vine can start having crop.

Odd as it sounds, if you get roots started on a cutting, set it in it's final location, and give it good care, you can train the new growth up the same season and often get some crop the second year, a year sooner than with rooted vines.

The big advantage with planting rooted vines is that they can take more abuse than a newly rooted cutting. But give a newly rooted cutting good care and it will give you crop the next season. I've personally produce a vine nine feet long from a cutting in one season. Got it to the top of an arbor and had a nice little crop the next year.

You can't do THAT with fruit trees.
-Lon Rombough

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Sharonack
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March 13, 2009 - 2:49 pm

Wow! I'm so grateful to have found this Home Orchard Society group - everyone has been so forthcoming and helpful. And so, I'll contact you, Mr. Rombough, for cuttings. And I'm hoping the gentleman, David, who wrote me about wanting MF vines will read your response as well, and contact you.
Comin' right up!'
Thank you so much,
Sharonack

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