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Jujube tree - where to buy? - large, potted, local
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jafar
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February 1, 2025 - 6:43 pm

I'd like to grow a particular variety of jujube that hasn't been easy to find.  One Green World lists it on backorder, and Raintree sells it, but I don't think their tree would be large and I prefer not to ship.

Does anybody know where I'll be able t buy a large potted jujube?  I vaguely recall that Wilco farm store may have sold one of the common varieties at a good price in a year past, but not sure if I'm making that up.

I have scion wood, so I don't mind treating another cultivar as mainly a rootstock.

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John S
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February 1, 2025 - 7:15 pm

I would call Portland Nursery.

John s
PDX OR

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February 4, 2025 - 11:18 am
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jafar
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February 4, 2025 - 3:40 pm

Thanks Larry.  Last time I looked they didn't have their list up.

They've got some cool stuff.  Lucy Glo apple!  And Royal Anne Cherry.  I'm still looking for scion wood for Royal Anne, not really room for another tree.

I'll need to take a look at price and size on those Li and Lang.   There could be a fast establishing good sized rootstock for me.

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Rooney
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February 4, 2025 - 5:06 pm

I can get Royal Ann picked for you. Just curious why you would like that one though?

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jafar
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February 18, 2025 - 11:12 am

Rooney said
I can get Royal Ann picked for you. Just curious why you would like that one though?

  

What do you mean picked, fresh fruit?  

Why would I like that one?  Because it has a unique flavor that I quite like and grew fond of.  There used to be a vendor at the PSU farmer's market I think who sold dried Royal Anne and they were delicious.  There also used to be available canned - but have since been replaced by whatever white/red cherry is convenient.

If I could readily buy them I'm probably prefer fruit than relying on my own production because I haven't had much success with cherries in my largely untended orchard.

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Rooney
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February 18, 2025 - 1:14 pm

Bada? vs. Royal AnnBada? vs. Royal Ann

PDF experiment by OSU about Royal Ann about what effectively pollinates

 


 
 

Jafar:

I saved you some Royal Ann during our recent cold spell so there's no need to worry looking for that any more.

Browsers hopefully shift above or in front of the pair of rules putting them in the background so I can explain one by one of three. I'm trying to put across some accuracy for you. So this is kind of shared notes that I have accumulated far in advance of your request for Royal Ann.

The left image is of Royal Ann from Wikipedia. The next one I took via my phone on July 1 and the Royal Ann is the yellow fleshed group on the right side. The white fleshed (left group) should be Bada, which according to the link given above should be an very outstanding pollinator for Royal Ann. 

I have scionwood collected from both and hope to increase what I have so as to make it available to more out there via venues that finally seem to be maturing recently. For example the first local event of scion exchanging that 'John S' just announced. 

Bada was one very hard to find anymore because nobody sells it, yet when grafted to sour cherry makes the most dwarf sweet cherry type of tree I have ever seen. That's another reason I wanted to increase it because it's easy to keep so small.

If anybody known if Bada has white flesh then it would be helpful for somebody to chime in and let me know because even though the later spring flowering periods and everything else lines up on this 'reportedly dwarf tree' (via info obtained from uDavis older inventory with the mutually compatible Stockton Morello as the root), I could still be wrong.

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jafar
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February 18, 2025 - 6:45 pm

Thank you!  I didn't quite understand some of that, I may need to reread more carefully.  But happy to get some Royal Anne scion wood and try to grow it.

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Rooney
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February 18, 2025 - 8:42 pm

You're welcome Jafar. You have helped me with scions as well over time. 

It isn't that obvious inside the PDF that the Napolean is Royal Ann until you view these specific references I grabbed out of the last page. Read it again now that you know. 

Many have never been aware of what is quickly disappearing is the knowledge that Royal Ann is one of those cherry types and has been adapted here. For any sweet cherry on the pollinator side to grow so speedily into Royal Ann flowers in such a way to be very conducive to our cool and wet is going to be another good extension of the same 3 recognized references once we both try it again.

The reason efforts were put into self fruitful sweet cherries (eg. stella lapins etc) and those accomplishments illustrate exactly why Bada and Royal Ann multi-grafted trees without that self pollination attribute mutation are no longer available any more. 

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Larry_G
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February 19, 2025 - 11:24 am

In the mid-1960s I picked cherries commercially for one of my Uncles

outside of Aurora. The variety was Royal Ann. They were to be picked stem-on

and were taken to a cannery in Woodburn or Salem. The trees were already mature,

over 20 feet tall and of equal spread. The fruit was placed from buckets into wooden crates

or half-bushels (15 pounds capacity). The appearance of the massed fruit was slightly

more yellow than red, the redder ones being from higher up in the trees where sunny.

Fairly large and quite sweet. The problem being I never have cared for fresh-eating cherries.

The wages were good; one could make over $10 per day at 5 cents a pound.

Back then, I did not see, or was not told, about any other cultivars in the orchard for cross-pollenization,

all of the trees were Royal Ann. Both Ann|Anne spellings are common.

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jafar
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February 19, 2025 - 1:30 pm

Larry, thanks for your story.  My experiences attempting to pick fruit left me with significant respect for those who do it for a living.  I'm thankful to be able to make a living in an office.

Rooney, I understand now.  I'd read that Royal Ann and Napolean are the same variety.

What I missed in your post was the connection to Bada.  I see now that its suggested as a pollinizer and can be grafted in the same tree.  I've got a few sweet cherries that bloom including a couple of huge volunteer seedlings, so I wasn't really worried about pollinization.   I'm more trying to figure out where I'm going to put everything.  

Thank you.

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