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Important: Fruit Propagation Fair / Scion Exchange Date!
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Steven
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January 17, 2009 - 2:41 pm

If you are an HOS member, and you have received your winter 2009 Pome News, you may have noticed that the date for the Fruit Propagation Fair (Scion Exchange) on the front cover is listed as March 8th. THIS IS NOT CORRECT.

The event will be held on Saturday, March 7th, 2009. There is no event on Sunday.

We encourage you to make sure you are on our Event Alert email list, as this is the easiest way to be notified on the very latest corrections or updates:
http://www.homeorchardsociety.org/events/

Sorry for the inconvenience <img decoding=" title="Embarassed" />

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boizeau
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January 22, 2009 - 10:26 am

And there is a scion exchange in the Federal Way Washington area on February 28th. Free admission.
no pets please.

Fruit Variety Scionwood Exchange
Location: Room #1, Fed. Way 320th Library
Date: Saturday, Feb. 28th
Time: 10 AM—5 PM
Admission: FREE
Sponsored by Dave Johnson -NOT the Home Orchard Society
Bring your dormant scionwood / cuttings of apple, pear, quince, fig, black currant, plum, grape, etc.
Now is a good time to start getting your scionwood.
Be sure to label your twigs/cuttings.
Best to bring in damp newspaper
Ideal cutting, from 7-18 inches long for most plants.
Please, bring a few extra markers/plastic bags.
No pets please.
For more information contact David at: Royj157@gmail.com

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John S
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February 1, 2009 - 11:02 pm

Hi Steven et al,
Are there going to be speakers this year? Sometimes there are and sometimes there aren't. Just curious. Thanks
John S
PDX OR

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Steven
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February 2, 2009 - 10:15 am

Hi John,

I know that Vern Nelson will be speaking on Espaliers from 12:45 – 1:45 pm (Saturday March 7).

I'll post here when I received the full schedule.

Steven

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Viron
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February 26, 2009 - 8:24 pm

[quote="Steven":3ilx1hci] I know that Vern Nelson will be speaking on Espaliers from 12:45 – 1:45 pm (Saturday March 7)

Steven[/quote:3ilx1hci]

Ouch! …but then again, that’s when us grafters often get a break … when everyone’s off listening to one of our excellent speakers! When class ‘lets out’ they’ll enthusiastically return to ‘fill us in.’ It’s great – don’t miss it folks - productive trees and vines may be of ‘growing importance’ in the near future ~

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Steven
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February 26, 2009 - 9:29 pm

[quote="Steven":2chgax6p]
I'll post here when I received the full schedule.
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Only two speakers this year:

11:30 - Caring for Your Newly Grafted Tree - Ted Swensen

12:45 - Fruit Tree Espalier in the Home Garden - Vern Nelson

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PlumFun
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February 28, 2009 - 8:28 am

I could not get the Mapquest link to work, but the Rand-McNalley site gave me these directions from Salem:

Take I-5 N

Take Exit 288 (I-205, I-84, The Dalles, Seattle) on right, go 0.3 miles

Take I-205 N (Veterans Memorial Hwy) ramp, go 12.5 miles

Take Exit 13 (OR-213 N, OR-224 W, 82nd Av, Milwaukie) on right, go 0.6 miles

Take OR-224 W (Milwaukie) exit on right, go 0.2 miles

Turn right onto OR-224 (Clackamas Hwy, SE Milwaukie Expwy), go 0.9 miles

Turn left onto SE Webster Rd, go < 0.1 miles

You are at 13801 SE Webster Rd, Milwaukie, OR 97267

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Steven
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February 28, 2009 - 9:14 am

[quote="plumfun":8wahb48w]I could not get the Mapquest link to work...[/quote:8wahb48w]

Thanks for the heads up. I changed it to a Google maps link.

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jadeforrest
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March 8, 2009 - 7:36 am

wow! Yesterday was so much fun! I felt like a kid in a candy store. Thank you to everyone that put this together. Thank you Viron for grafting our experimental interstemed apple tree. Do I have to wait a whole year until next year's fair? I am counting the days!

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Viron
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March 8, 2009 - 9:21 am

[quote="jadeforrest":1p1xxn5a]Do I have to wait a whole year until next year's fair? I am counting the days![/quote:1p1xxn5a]

Yes… <img decoding=" title="Crying or Very sad" /> But hey - you’re welcome :mrgreen: --Beyond doing “microsurgery” on seemingly endless large rootstocks vs. tiny scions … I had been looking forward to your ‘challenge’ - doing both the interstem and cultivar grafts at ‘the same time.’ I got to “jump the table” once to look over ‘replacing’ a couple branches on two well established espaliered potted cherry trees carted to the show – only to find Vern Nelson had already given them ‘the news’ ...that there was little we could do then and there, but to consider Bud Grafting this Summer…

All-in-all – it appeared a very productive event! Me and my ‘Wrapper’ were whipping em out - we’d guessed around sixty trees between us! Had lots of help, too. It was great to meet a couple ‘new’ (to me) grafters, and listen to the banter between them and their customers. And it’s always interesting to watch “a machine” in action… I got an opportunely to monkey around with it after the show, though I still prefer doing it by hand.

As usual, your enthusiasm shined – you reminded me of a version of myself when I first joined the society …twentysomething years ago... Maintaining enthusiasm and encouraging the participation of continuing generations is a real success story for this organization – I congratulate those who have - and continue to make that happen! …And if you think wandering around the event is addictive – wait till we get you behind a table – any table, your time will come!

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John S
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March 8, 2009 - 9:46 pm

Boy was it packed! Just like last year. I was surprised that the All about Fruit Show was not as packed. Maybe this is a sign that people are really getting into growing their own fruit. Sustainability.

I mentioned to my wife Gail that there were not many young people there and she said that most people in their 20's don't own property, so why would they invest in fruit grafting and planning. Good point. I didn't do that much gardening in my 20's for exactly the same reason: I had to pack up, move and give away plants each summer.
John S
PDX OR

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LeeN
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March 9, 2009 - 1:09 pm

I want to thank everyone who was involved in hosting/facilitating the FPF/SE. This was the second time I attended; the first year, it absolutely blew my mind. This year I was better prepared but I still believe it to be an awesome and wonderful experience.

I don't know what the actual demographic distribution of attendees (it would be interesting information for future media selection/notification). I did talk with a few younger individuals who were augmenting their gardens in their urban backyards. What was also apparent to me was the lack of racial/ethnic diversity. Perhaps some specific outreach to specific community organizations/associations would be helpful; or at least, seeking ways to include event announcements into more targeted media outlets.

The Fruit Propagation Fair is certainly a part of locally produced, self-sustainable, organic, slow-food attitudes that is hopefully becoming stronger and more pervasive. Beyond the benefit of retaining genetic diversity of heirloom varieties, the FPF promotes better and more healthful nutrition. How wonderful ! ! !

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Viron
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March 10, 2009 - 2:45 pm

John;

“I mentioned to my wife Gail that there were not many young people there and she said that most people in their 20's don't own property, so why would they invest in fruit grafting and planning.”

John, I gave up on my young friends decades ago… Inheriting the ‘family homestead,’ I took over a well established orchard, or ‘cabin’ surrounded by 65 year old trees (on standard rootstock!). I was in Heaven! Having spent weeks at a time ‘out here’ as a kid, then hauling boxes of fruit back to our city lot in Portland; I was then “in charge” of the trees that had most given me an appreciation of fruit! Digging into books on orcharding (while perpetually seeking employment) I stumbled onto the Home Orchard Society – and jokingly remain the youngest long-time member… often arriving to their picnics on my motorcycle. Armed only with enthusiasm, I began suggesting to my friends (many relatives) to plant Fruit Trees! “Why?” was the usual response…

“So you can eat the fruit” I’d respond! One, in the money and having bought a rich half acre outside of Oregon City, informed me I “should have been there a week ago when we pulled out two cherry trees!” …Sure enough, just past the new redwood deck & hot-tub were the ruts and holes of where they’d used a 4-W-D to ‘remove’ two beautiful 15 or so year old cherry trees… Still makes me sick. “What would we do with cherries” they asked? “Eat them” I proclaimed! “My parents have acres of cherry trees (in Hood River, Oregon), and if I want cherries I’ll just get a box from them, but we don’t want them rotting in the yard or on the new deck”… was the response. Yes, a spoiled rich kid (and relative I don’t fear stumbling onto this..), he apparently had better things to do.

The rest of my friends informed me they weren’t “Where we want to be”… “I figure I’ll go through a couple more houses before we end up with property” one said. “So plant them to enhance the value of this place” I’d suggest. “Where?” “And how?” …I eventually gave up... Now they visit ‘out here’ and salivate over my productive menagerie, openly admitting they wished they’d have had an appreciation of fruit trees and vines long before ‘now.’

I admit it’s generally people ‘my age’ & older across the grafting table starting the orchards of their dreams … but somebody has to~ I also remember being told why friends and relatives wouldn’t bother grafting – “It will be years before I’d have fruit.” Though I’ve learned Years Happen - they almost discouraged me… but it was apparently too late as I’d been sufficiently infected and had already set about grafting anything I could find with every graft in the book. Now I hang from and climb into those grafts, some so thick people think I’m BSing them, or just seriously mistaken as I point out a one-time graft. Production? …Had to buy a serious apple press with electric grinder to keep up!

If any of you youngsters want some instant friends – get with the HOS! Mentoring youngsters is a Society-wide endeavor! …and “Society”… I also envision enthusiastically describing my participation in this Society to my same young friends, “What kind of a Society” they’d ask..? …taking a few steps back… Nearly as difficult as explaining a “Scion!” -- let alone a graft. But you know what? I got the last laugh <img decoding=" title="Laughing" /> …until I fall out of a tree!

Lee;

“What was also apparent to me was the lack of racial/ethnic diversity. Perhaps some specific outreach to specific community organizations/associations would be helpful; or at least, seeking ways to include event announcements into more targeted media outlets.”

Agreed; and curious? There may be a cultural aspect I’m unaware of… but any homeowner, or perspective homeowner, should appreciate several maintained fruit trees on the lot or property. I’m seriously wondering if the current economic implosion won’t spark members of every community to more seriously consider planting fruiting trees and vines? Actually, as into ‘this’ as I am – it’s always been a Garden First for me. I’ve planted a garden every year for the past 25, but suspect planting fruit trees or vines is closely related. As many of the (vegetable) gardens that cause me to stop and stare are the work of those we see few if any faces at the propagation fair; it makes me wonder, too.

Funny, I was looking over a book I’d recommended a few threads back and noticed an old, thick-nosed white guy peering through ‘coke-bottle’ lens glasses as he completed a graft… Though I’m inching toward the look … I’ve at least proven you don’t have to be old (if not white) to garden or graft! You can be green and stupid – and I suspect any color in the spectrum if sufficiently inspired :mrgreen:

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LeeN
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March 11, 2009 - 10:51 pm

Viron:

We need to be conscious that while many individuals are interested/participate in gardening and growing some of their food, not everyone gets their information from the same sources that you and I do. And by information I include learning about community events.

Last year I only learned about the Scion Exchange by chance -- I normally do not buy the Oregonian on Thursday with the inclusion of the gardening section. I guess my karma was particularly blessed that day. Think, however, about individuals whose first language is something other than English. Western Oregon is home to large populations of Asians, Latinos and East Europeans. These individuals may be fluent in English (verbally) but are not sufficiently literate to read newspapers written in English and they may prefer to tune into broadcast media that is in their first language.

Apple literature describes many apples of Russian origin; many plum and pear varieties come from China/Japan/Korea/et.al.; and if manzana is apple in Spanish, isn't Manzanita indicative of a very early Spanish/Hispanic commentary on our native Malus fusca (Oregon Crab apple). It might be a very interesting exchange of ideas, techniques and, potentially, even scion if it were possible to somehow inform/welcome these individuals to HOS events.

I do not get to Portland often as I used to -- whenever I do and I get the opportunity to obtain the Skanner, I grab a copy to keep (somewhat) informed about what's happening in the African-American community. To be more inclusive of this community, it might be beneficial to post event notices in that paper.

Area nurseries have a very limited selection of fruit trees that are do not include the diverse and native varieties from these cultures. If HOS offers them an opportunity to once again bite into an apple (or pear or plum) that is just like the one they ate from their grandfather's tree -- what would that mean to them ??? And better still, could they share one of their homeland's unique varieties with us ????

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Viron
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March 19, 2009 - 7:06 pm

I just received a brief e-mail report from our HOS Membership Chair, Stan Townsend. Not only did he ‘man’ the door at the FPF or “Scion Exchange,” but he sold, renewed, then went home to tally our memberships.

“We had over 600 people attend the FPF [Fruit Propagation Fair] including volunteers. There were 104 new members and 59 renewals. There are now 680 members which is the largest total since I have been keeping the records.”

I was nearly blown-away before the show when I saw the size of the crowed waiting to get in and described them as 'at least a hundred people' – there could easily have been twice that! The total member number looks good, too. We’d have a mighty big Picnic if everyone decided to attend!

My thanks to those, like Stan, who do all that behind-the-scene work … while some of us simply revel in the glory :mrgreen:

PS: Stan - add two more at the show - me & mine never signed in...

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