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How to manage tree seedlings/saplings?
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Larry_G
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May 12, 2025 - 11:25 am

The above question is one of general home orchard interest (cherry), the double-period after "things" may be an indication of human typo input.

Tree seedlings popping up everywhere is an indication that all of those trees are already on your or adjacent properties, and this may be an annual event.

Long-term, they may create shade where it is not wanted.

What is the size of your property?

If these seedlings are 20 feet away from structures and existing gardened areas and other improvements such as sidewalks and driveways, then their value is to wildlife.

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Rooney
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May 31, 2025 - 10:36 am

Larry, 

Our traditional methods used by our post flaggers don't see the hidden URL in this first post and by the sounds of your reply it sounds like you missed it too, which includes me. 

While in the mean time that we missed that these forums give away these stats (via google analytics) you were talking about a few months ago, so we should now be engaged a bit differently on our own.

So today I'm going to contact John and discuss with him the idea of editing these destination URLs in these hidden links so that they change to the HOS policies page which can't ding ratings -is that correct?  

If we go about it that way and those horizontal-line-posts keep showing themselves at the rate of almost one-a-day then our flags should simply issue the external URL in the form and as well the substitution link or URL that leads to HOS policies page, right?

Also note that I found 8 more since the date this topic was initiated by a first time poster (eg. intruder) and these types are exposed only by the mouse selection methods and not the Firefox method that ET taught Jon any more. Include all the methods you and I submitted. So these intruders are watching what we post for recommendations such as ET's and circumventing them. Which Wordpress will eventually need to come to the aid of Jafar and John the moderators, so hopefully we will see the fruits of Wordpress building a better sandbox to sift out these soon enough.

If I see John today I will be asking if this issue is sent to Wordpress and in the mean time may we remind ourselves to be somewhat in contact with each others emails so they (the intruders) can't continue circumventing.

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Larry_G
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May 31, 2025 - 3:22 pm

Rooney,

I assume that any forum post by a first-timer and without a gardening-related moniker is an intruder, note the first line of my response.

So I posted a general-interest generic response, and asked a question; no response after 19 days. The new spams had not been scrubbed in a while, they should still show for a search of HTML hex color value for white.

Redirecting the unwanted links to the Policies page will work -- if that page is specifically HTML-coded to include the meta tag rel="nofollow"  so that bots do not crawl that page. It can take some time for a webpage to be delisted using that method.

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Rooney
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May 31, 2025 - 6:43 pm

I pulled 9 users from 5 different topics made since this topic and lifted it for you to verify which (if any) can be searched with the traditional white designation in html. I don't think they can be found.

My point here is that these posts have been advanced or improved (actually circumvented) to avoid our methods of detecting and subsequently deleting them anymore making it that much more important to move it as a ticket further up.

In the mean time focusing on rerouting bad links elsewhere to the policy page sounds like a nice way then according to your answer.Screenshot_2025-05-31_1.png  

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Larry_G
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June 2, 2025 - 2:24 pm

The color code is still present in the page sources and is visible by eye also (white anchor text).

However, unlike some weeks ago, the forum search function will find "color" but will not find "#ffffff" (when it is not manually typed in as part of the post).

In looking further at the spammed portion of the page code, the unwanted links are already coded with rel="nofollow".

But since 2020, Google is not disregarding these, but using them as a "hint". I don't know what to make of this.

I do not want to spend any more time on this matter; seems like the best solution is just to disable HTML in posts at the webmaster level, with the exception of <image> and its attributes.

Once can always post the simpler links as text with a space. This does require the visitor to manually edit the link to make it functional, but these are not a major component of the forum anyway.

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Rooney
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June 5, 2025 - 4:27 pm

Larry, I think a link turned into a tool placed somewhere on the borders of every topic that moderators could use or which we could use to flag them is going to be more advantageous. 

The tool contains javascript which I copied from other experts and I fully tested them as a toolbar bookmark on all OS's and Browsers. What it does is exposes every link on any page (eg. not just forums) in a single click, then one more click of function key F5 to return to default. (less steps than a copy)

The issue now is not having your email address since this forum won't let me paste this as code. But I will get with John soon and at least get him to test it.

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