I'm not sure what you are asking for? Are you doing a renovation? transplanting? collecting scions? just Pruning?
grapes only fruit on 2nd year wood and there are to prominent methods cane pruning and spur pruning. There are a host of different trellis systems and most of them work for most vines, not all verities respond well to spur pruning. Don't be afraid to cut a lot of wood away heavy pruning is best.
Lon Rumbaugh often post on this forum and has a great book and video to help you along
Randy
Master Gardener from Yamhill County
Gorgeous! …no deer..? I was pleased to see that you can replace the posts - and hadn’t concreted them into the ground. Just a bit up and off may give them 5 or 6 years, as opposed to only a couple inside concrete or soil… I presume they’re fir, even looks like alder up top. Anyway, you can always lay down the vines and replace any framework.
It looks like you did fine with the vines. It’s hard to train them ‘straight up’ without something to tie them to, but I suspect your common sense will prevail. Their growth habit will become evident and you’ll eventually develop the ‘trunks.’ And it won’t take long! That powerful ‘clump’ will do its thing, if in the shade, and with years of roots you’ll have lots of new growth to play with.
…now I’m trying to remember if the ‘logs’ will last longer with their bark on or off … I’m thinking ‘off’…
You didn't harm the vine. It may have a smaller crop this year, but the fruit will have better quality. I've retrained old vines like that one by cutting them off at the ground. Train up one of the super vigorous shoots that comes up and the whole vine can be re-developed and ready to bear the very next year.
Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at http://www.bunchgrapes.com Grape pruning video: http://www.bunchgrapes.com/dvd.html
Lon thanks for the advice on the phone and i will be down to get some table grape cuttings from you, i think i am going to wait to see how the concords emerge.
It is a relief to know that the grapes we live on,
i was wondering about the 3 inch diameter 15ft long vine that had no growth on it and re-rooted itself and continued on for another 6 feet, i cut it just above the new root growth and swung up and on the arbor. i was hoping that it will produce new wood. i read somewhere that it would.
Viron as for the arbor that is how i set all my posts now, fence post, deck post, whatever post, it saves time and cement and no shovel work the second time around, just remove the 2 bolts drill your new post and bolt it back up. it cost a little more up front but when the time comes to replace the posts it is well worth it.
and the wood i used is from an old 80 foot tall apple tree that i cut down last summer the posts are the scions and the top are the branches.
it was a monster of a tree.
Oh! no deer here we live in Park rose on an acre, Portland city limit's a little slice of heaven in the city.
Bark off and they stay longer, waiting for them to dry out to peel the rest off. the bark will fall off by itself after a wile.
now i am just waiting for someone to please take that last clump of vines so i can build an arbor for the kiwi, i don't have the heart to kill it, but.
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