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Grafting apples onto malus fusca
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John S
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February 10, 2011 - 10:10 pm

Apparently, many people have grafted all kinds of apples onto native Oregon crabapple. A guy from Bullock's permaculture wrote,

"We often use Malus fusca (our native crab apple) as a rootstock for our apples. When we find a native crab apple growing in the blackberries we clear around it and graft a yummy domestic apple onto it. This results in a situation where we get apple production without doing any of the establishment work or nursery care. If the rootstock is already there and established we are definitely proponents of taking advantage of it."

Another guy on the web does this too.
:"To date, I have successfully grafted numerous cultivars of domestic apple (Malus domestica) to the Pacific crabapple (Malus fusca), a wild species native to the Northwest Coast of North America. Malus fusca is a small tree that is very tolerant of poor drainage and salt spray. It often comes up in thickets of salmonberry (Rubus spectabilis), which is thorny and thus protects the young crabapple trees from deer browse. The crabapples, while edible, are relatively small and in contrast to many apples of cultivated origin, need to be dried or pickled to be enjoyed.
Malus fusca makes a useful rootstock, however, for those wishing to grow apples in wet, maritime climates. Malus fusca appears to show resistance to common diseases and the small size of the trees makes harvesting easy. I find its tendency to send up suckers useful as it provides a continuous supply of new places to graft onto. I have 'top worked' several older trees, using a technique called 'crown grafting' (which is a little brutal), and also by wedge grafting scions of many varieties to the ends of existing branches. These 'repurposed' trees now provide bushels of fruit on a site that used to be unsuitable for a conventional orchard because the soil stays waterlogged all winter."

The second guy is in BC, and I think it interesting to think of it as not only useful for poorly draining areas, but also to fight against diseases.

I believe that I am going to try some of this very soon. I have some guerrilla gardening/grafting sites that I want to try.
John S
PDX OR

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jadeforrest
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February 12, 2011 - 9:14 am

I grafted winter banana as an interstem and then two varieties on top. It seems to be working quite well so far. The winter banana can be used to dwarf the tree, and if you want, you can grow pears on the tree too. Too cool.

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John S
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February 13, 2011 - 9:24 am

I tried to do that with scion I got from the scion exchange, Jade. I grafted onto the rootstock and waited for awhile to see. It took, and it fruited.
An apple came out and it was not Winter Banana. The apple was yellow, but it had no red blush at all and it was full of lenticels. It was a very early apple. It was probably Yellow Transparent or Lodi. Unfortunately, I also grafted many other scions at the same time, at least some of which are also probably not Winter Banana. I have grafted onto them, too, but I don't know if I'll have long term incompatibility issues. I'll probably just go for it and see what happens.
John S
PDX OR

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PlumFun
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February 25, 2011 - 1:14 pm

I have had a few kinds of domestica cultivars snap clean off of fusca understock after several years.

There might be some incompatability that makes some of the unions grow ugly and brittle.

Other unions seem just fine.

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jadeforrest
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February 26, 2011 - 5:58 pm

Do you remember any details? I heard winter banana is a good match.

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