Anyone have luck with these? I am growing One Green World's Korean bush cherry. It is healthy and has flowered but not fruited yet. Raintree urged me NOT to buy their Nanking Cherry because it tends to have disease problems on the West side of the Cascades. I bought a sand cherry from Forest Farm and it keeps growing but it gets rust and doesn't fruit, although it flowers profusely. Has anyone grown Joel, Jan, or Joy, or other bush cherries successfully?
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john s
PDX OR
Nanking bush cherries and Sand cherries get pseudomonas and other disease here in western Oregon. I tried for years to get fruit and gave up. As soon as they bloom, disease blasts the blossoms and kills the shoots. In warmer weather new growth replaces the blasted shoots, making the bushes look healthy. But they never set.
I have Jan, Joy, and Joel and they rarely have fruit, for much the same reason. However, they are graft compatible with plum rootstock and I think if they were grafted like a tree rose the blooms would be up where better air circulation might allow them to set. They have just enough resistance to blossom blast that if they are in really favorable conditions, they might set more. As it is, I get a very few fruits most years, which is still more than I got with the other bush cherries.
Years ago I ordered a few 'Bush Cherries' from Gurneys. The nursery stock arrived in terrible condition, but in a while they did start to grow.
Never saw any fruit. They seem very highly suc. to brown rot and bloom too early.
I would go for some of the newer 'pie cherry types', like Evans Bali, or other Pie Cherry.
You would do a lot better with Goumi, which is similar to a Cherry in flavor.
Boizeau,
I agree that Goumi does great here, tastes good, and is quite a bit easier. The berry is beautiful as it turns from silver to gold specked, to red. I have had trouble propagating it. I tried to graft it to autumn olive to no avail. I may just dig up a portion and divide it.
Burnt Ridge didn't recommend Evans for the wet side of the Cascades, just for very cold places. They recommended North Star, which I'm growing. It produces and tastes good, but it gets a lot of bacterial diseases.
I talked to Lon at the scion show and I'm interested in trying to perhaps graft Jan/Joy/Joel to plum, or grow Surefire, Danube, or Jubileum.
John S
PDX OR
Goumi are supposed to root from cuttings and I have a lot of seedlings as well. Need to get those things planted!
I also think the Eleagnaceae Autumn Olives are pretty cool as a berry like fruit. I got mine from Hidden Springs Nursery.
for the real adventurous, I have a superior selection of Rubus Spectabilis that I've grown from seed. The parent plant was quite large as well as the fruit, both in quantity and size "and flavor".
Almost rivals a mediocre raspberry, but a great step forward for the salmonberry.
Autumn Olives are great, and any male should eat lots of them. They have 17 times more lycopene than tomatoes. Lycopene is an antioxidant that fights against prostate and other cancers. If you are male and live to be 85, you WILL have prostate cancer. They also grow easy and taste good. And the flowers smell good. And they are drought tolerant. And hummingbirds love them. And they are naturally disease and pest free. Burnt Ridge has them very cheap. I have grown many autumn olives from cuttings, but I have never grown Goumi from cuttings. They didn't take. I would be interested in that salmonberry, especially because they fruit in the Spring.
John S
PDX OR
We planted nanking cherries and also some sand cherries from one of the mail order nurseries ten years ago. Both fruited. The astringent fruit was unpalatable enough to make it useless for eating or cooking.
We live in southern Minnesota and have rich soil, which may be part of the problem. We eventually removed the plants to make room for something else.
I asked One green world and they said that their Cherry Prinsepia fruits for them. Raintree admitted that they don't recommend Nanking or Joy or Joel bush cherries for the west side.
I don't know whether to trust One Green World. I asked Burnt Ridge why Yellowhorn doesn't fruit and they both just say they're fine, but when I talk to other gardeners, they all say that it doesn't fruit. Sometimes I can't tell what's going on.
John S
PDX OR
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