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Apple Tip Bearers:Dwarf rootstock?
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John S
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September 9, 2010 - 11:03 pm

I was thinking of growing Golden Russet, a tip bearing type of apple. I was just thinking that if I grew it on dwarfing rootstock, I could fit it into the space I want and not worry about pruning it too much. Most of my trees are semi-dwarf and I prune them a lot, but I would be cutting off fruit-bearing spurs. Also, I wouldn't be growing a huge tree space for only the ends of the tree to make fruit. What do you people think about this idea? I have never heard of it, but it seems like it might work.
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John S
PDX OR

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quokka
Corvallis
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September 11, 2010 - 1:20 pm

John:

How dwarf were you think of going? How small do you keep your trees? I've got one on M26, and am trying to use the ideas I found here:

http://www.lecoteau.com/Pruning%20Tip%2 ... ieties.pdf

Of all the young trees I am trying to grow, this one is the most responsive to pruning for structure. At least so far.

Dave

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John S
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September 12, 2010 - 12:18 am

Thanks Dave,
I had read that article too. That's why I thought an 8-10 foot tall tree would work, with limited pruning for a tip bearer. Less tree that is not being used.
John S
PDX OR

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Viron
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September 12, 2010 - 9:37 am

I read the article John, and for those of us who prune every year, a ‘tip bearer’ can be treated about the same as a ‘regular tree.’ I’ve watched commercial growers use pneumatic pruners to remove shoots back to the ‘next limb’ from which they grew; this shortens and thins their trees. But it also leaves some ‘new shoots’ untouched. If the tree is a tip-bearer, they’ll get their fruit (on spindly shoots) - but the height & width would be pushing outward…

With ‘us,’ capable and willing to cut individual shoots back to 4 or 5 buds, and ignore the spindly lateral shoots of a tip-bearer, we do just fine. In fact, often too fine! I prune all my apple trees the same, having forgotten which are tip-bearer’s or not. The key is leaving a few base buds on each new (lateral) shoot, which will inevitably leave some fruit buds. And – leave those spindly dudes!

When showing others how to prune, most folks have a very difficult time leaving anything that doesn’t look perfect, so they’re constantly wanting to follow-up my work by snipping off the small stuff. I try to make it clear that any ‘twig’ growing level will not ‘take over’ the tree. It will likely fruit, bending limp with big beautiful apples. They grin … while keeping a wary eye on it :D

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PlumFun
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September 14, 2010 - 7:45 am

P.22 stocks get to be around 5 feet tall, if you are interested. Not much suckering from the ground from them in contrast to Bud9 and M27.

If you did a whole row of dwarfs this size, 3 feet apart, you could have an apple hedge.

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